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Fantastic Music Logic CD!

Posted by Robert Bienstock [IP: 208.250.140.34] on February 01, 1999 at 16:25:27:

In Reply to: Fantastic Music Logic CD! posted by SMR [WizOp] January 30, 1999 at 00:53:18

:Hey, another Oldfield fan! Most of the folks I converse with don't know Oldfield at all, outside of Tubular Bells that is. I listened to Ommadawn earlier and I think I know why it's not suited to Music Logic. There isn't a great deal of L = R information so I doubt the centre steering of Music Logic has a lot to work with. Panorama on the other hand thrives on L/R differences so is more at home. I'm in agreement, Ommadawn is certainly brought alive by the Lex.

You could be right. I have a slight counter theory, which is that there isn't a lot of L-R to give the surrounds something to work with. I suspect that a lot of the keyboards were recorded with DI and not a lot of added reverb. The part that is strange about the way Music Logic acts on it is that woth other recordings, in addition to a nice center image, you get a lovely layering effect where instruments appear to be clearly occupying a finite location that is located somewhere in the space between you and the plane of the front speakers (and, on occasion, behind you as well). With Ommadawn, this space seems compressed.

Also, the thing I've noticed about Music Logic (and remember I've got 1.0 of the software) is how critical the amount of L=R in the mix is. If there's the proper amount, it sounds great, but if there's too much, the soundfield sometimes collapses into near-single-speaker-mono. This is perhaps exacerbated in a home theater system where the center speaker is not identical to the front. In my system where the front speakers are B&W 801 Matrix and the center is a Matrix HTM, one gets a nice blend when the mix allows Music Logic to have the L, C and R speakers at approximately equal level. When there is too much steering to the center, the differences between the two speakers (which are actually pretty well timbrally matched) can be pretty striking.

:Have you tried 'Amarok'? It's probably the most difficult Oldfield disc to "get into", but it's an incredible piece - just one long track. It's also give your system a thorough workout, loads of dynamics and passages with very deep bass.

I own "Amarok" and I've listened to it twice -- Once when I first got it and again after reading the book MIKE OLDFIELD, A MAN AND HIS MUSIC, where the author touted it as a "return to form" for Mike. I liked it better the second time, but not enough to listen again. On your recommendation, I'll give it another chance.

:Probably the first side of 'Islands' is my favourite…

I'll have to check this out too. I have it, but I remember not being too impressed.

My ranking of favorite Oldfield would be (in decending order) Incantations, Ommadawn, Hergest Ridge, Tubular Bells I, Tubular Bells II, Songs of Distant Earth, Five Miles Out, then everything else (though I also have a special fondness for the 12" versions of "To France" and "Heaven's Open").

:Has 'Tubular Bells III' made it to the US yet?

No, though the import is available for purchase on the Internet for about $35.00. I haven't heard it, but I've been told that it is house music inspired, about which I am less than enthusiastic. I'll wait until it sees a US release. I did see a Japanese laserdisc of the London concert that I might consider, though. What I'm interested in finding about is the UK Special Edition of Tubular Bells I. There are so many different mixes and remasterings of this, of varying quality, that it would be very nice to find one edition that was the definitive best. Have you seen this package and do you think it is worth getting?

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