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DVD Black Level Confusion Posted by kent h on October 01, 1998 at 23:59:34: In Reply to: DVD Black Level Confusion posted by Robin Luckey on September 30, 1998 at 13:40:51: : : I understand that a standard color bar screen contains both 0 IRE and 7.5 IRE black, and that a player must be able to reproduce 0 IRE if you want to use a DVD like Video Essentials as a monitor calibration source. However, in the normally visible picture, 7.5 IRE is standardized as the darkest possible black, and your monitor should be calibrated for this. So why would I ever want my DVD player to output levels lower than 7.5 during normal playback? : Is this expanded black range merely a trick which "crushes" the video black normally at 7.5 IRE down to 0 IRE to "improve" the apparent quality or expand the contrast range? This seems to be an undesirable modification of the signal. Or is this just the manufacturer's way of stating that the device is capable of correctly outputing 0 IRE when required, and that some other DVD players are thus incapable of this? : Does the image storage encoding on DVD even accomodate the fact that there is a range of black possible below 7.5 IRE? : I am considering a purchase of a high-quality DVD player and I am wondering if there is anything I need to be worried about in all of this, and whether "expanded black range" should be a feature I care about. : Thanks, I will try and explain this to the best of my ability. I not an expert who works in the video field. Actually, the PLUGE stripes on a DVD are in digital units, which correspond to about +4 IRE above black and >>>>>So why would I ever want my DVD player to output levels lower than 7.5 during >>>>>Does the image storage encoding on DVD even accomodate the fact that there is a You are not really getting an expanded range with players that put out 0 IRE. For players that use 0 IRE for black, they will go between 0 and 100 IRE. For players that use 7.5 IRE (the standard for consumer NTSC displays) they will output 7.5 to 100 IRE. However, If you have calibrated your set, black at either 0 IRE or 7.5 IRE will be essentially 0 light, and 100 IRE will be just below your point of blooming of your phosphors. So in either case you are seeing the full dynamic range of the picture. The problem with many DVD players is not that they would set black level to 7.5 IRE but that they would not output any signal below 7.5 IRE (except sync pulses, which go way below black) , so they did not display the "blacker than black" PLUGE stripe. I have a Sony DVP 7000, which does display blacker than black and sets black to 7.5 IRE. The only thing that not having the blacker than black be displayed really does is make it harder to calibrate your set. hope this helps,
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